The Flu Shot - Should you get it?


My wife says she does not remember ever having the flu and has never had the flu shot. This is up in Canada where a lot fewer people get the flu shot.

Realizing this, it is hard for me to think that the flu shot is important.

     Looking back with hindsight, If I had been getting a flu shot the last 30 years I would have been risking it for nothing, I would have risked the side effects for nothing for 30 years, got a sore arm for nothing and perhaps felt crappy for a day or two from the shot for nothing, and 30 years worth of mercury and other nasty stuff collecting in my organs and lymph nodes.

Why didn't I get a flu shot years ago?  I did not see people dying of the flu around me, I knew back then it had mercury in it, so I just thought it was stupid and ignored it.  To this day, I still do not know anyone who has died of the flu. Do You? Though it can very rarely happen, mainly in seniors.


                                     INFLUENZA DEFINED 

Initially, the flu may seem like a common cold with a runny nose, sneezing and sore throat. But colds usually develop slowly, whereas the flu tends to come on suddenly. And although a cold can be a nuisance, you usually feel much worse with the flu.  Symptoms of influenza include:

Fever over 100.4F, aching muscles, chills and sweats, headache, dry persistent cough, fatigue and weakness, nasal congestion and sore throat.

-Only 32.4% of Canadians, on average, get a flu shot, see this Stats Canada link.

-About 48% of Americans get a flu shot. The CDC says 59% of kids aged 0 to 18 get shot and about 42% of adults. 

-Few Europeans get a flu shot(see table 1 in this link), they just target the elderly and a couple other target groups, says "Fewer than one third of 'older people' are vaccinated in half the countries surveyed".   The average person does not get a flu shot in most of Europe, yet some of these countries live longer than us, they are not all dying of the flu.





   This CDC link shows vaccine effectiveness over the last 15 years.  Overall average over last 15 years is  39.9%. (add them up and divide by 15 = 39.92%)

39.9% average, not great.  If you average out the last 5 years shown here you get an average of 34.8%.

-Note that I am just showing you what the CDC says.  This effectiveness data is highly suspect, it does not match the evidence.(link #8 below)  Remember the 39.9% effectiveness is the overall average for all 3 or 4 strains contained in a flu shot. 

Now look at this new 2018 study that the media ignored.  It says the flu shot loses 16% effectiveness every 28 days.  So if a flu shot that is 40% effective and you get the shot October 1st, how effective is it by December 30th, near zero? 

#2.-  This was done by the Kaiser Permanente in California.

-This study says " vaccine-induced protection was greatest for individuals Not vaccinated during the prior 5 years".  In other words your first flu shot is the most effective.  This article says same and shows that perhaps you should only get a flu shot when a serious pandemic comes, when it is really needed, otherwise it may not work.(See "Serial flu shot problem" below).


#8.  This is California 2016/17 flu deaths etc. Says they have mandatory reporting of flu deaths under 65. This is real world data.  Page 10 and 11 show that 64% of kids who died or had severe influenza, had got a flu shot. (also says 68% of adults under 65 who died were vaccinated, so you were better off without the flu shot, see next topic)

 See here for the data from other seasons. 2017/18 season shows 50.8% of kids were vaccinated, who died or had severe influenza in California, is that 0% effective for flu shot?

If you look at 2015/16,  it was 38.9% of kids were vaccinated.  Is it random chance, because the flu shot does nothing?

-Some of you may have seen the CDC modelling study that supposedly says 78% of kids who died from influenza, where unvaccinated. (How does a vaccine that is 40% effective save 78% of kids).  Now look at this data from California. Never believe the CDC(see Tab Q CDC), go with science and the data, not the "right of authority".

-this article quotes study that says "First flu is forever".  Third paragraph says " If you were exposed to a certain flu strain in your childhood, that first exposure could have resulted in long-term protection against related flu viruses, reducing your risk of a future severe infection by up to 75%.  So maybe it is good to get the flu while young and healthy and then you have better chance if get flu when old.

-This is 2017/2018 flu shot effectiveness results.  was 17% for dominant A strain and 55% for b strain so an average of 36% effective.  Though Skowronski says the 17% could have been 0%.  All corporate media outlets ignored that "0" part in their reporting.

-Have a laugh, read this news story from Fox news. Country singer Willie Nelson got the flu this winter and he says he got the flu shot. And Mark latour in this story also got the flu shot and the flu, but they still say "get the flu shot", and they say can get the flu up to 3 times.(if you get the flu shot?)This is one of the thousands of news story's that the Americans see's pushing the fool shot.  They hype it like a Hollywood movie.

-Read this Silly article from CTV news, and it's flu shot effectivness section, It is what it does not say that is important, this is not responsible journalism. 

-Flu shot effectivness Canada, 2018/2019 season page 13 here. Say was basically ineffective for medically-attended outpatient A(H3N2), then says 23% effectiveness and -16% for 20 to 64 year old's.  VE against A(H1N1) was 70% for an average of about 45% overall.


-2019/2020 flu season.  This video from CTV News this year shows 2 things:  They still use the multi-dose Vials, the one with mercury in it, watch the nurse give the shot.  Also says H3N2 or most dangerous strain is not a good match as has already drifted and says other 2 strains are a good match. This says 2 of the 4 strains have drifted and 4th paragraph says "Mis-match"  This says flu shot is a mis-match this year.  Here also  a picture of using multi-dose vial in Calgary 2020.  This from CDC, says overall effectiveness of flu vaccine this season is 45% in the US,  50% against influenza B and 37% against A strain.

This says flu shot was 58% in Canada overall and 18% effective for those over 65.  So is Canada fibbing? the US was 45%, they use the same vaccines as we do.

-Note to the media. Yes, we have all heard a million times "The flu shot cannot give you the flu",  can you get beyond that, read this site. 

-IT IS A MYTH THAT A FLU SHOT MITIGATES INFLUENZA SEVERITY.  We have all heard Health Canada and CDC spokesmen say that, it is not true.

#3.-  This 2013 study says "flu shot not lower hospitalizations". Read all of the study.  It also says “These findings DO NOT support the hypothesis that Vaccination Mitigates illness severity.

This new 2020 Australian study says "There was no evidence that vaccination reduced the severity of influenza illness".  Also says the flu shot was responsible for a 31% reduction in flu mortality, this over 7 years on adults and children, not infants.


To the Americans and to a lesser extent Canadians. The CDC and Health Canada are pushing a vaccine recommendation on us that is not supported by science. 

Did you know that most of Europe does not have a Universal flu shot recommendation like Canada and the US?

#4.-  Read the 2nd paragraph of this which confirms this. Then the 4th paragraph says "the data does not support a universal recommendation for everyone over 6 months old". 

Most of Europe only recommends the flu shot for the elderly and then some specific other groups, like the sick.

     The Universal recommendations only came out about 10 to 15 years ago. Mainly due to industry pressures I believe.(I cant back this claim up)   

      Here is article from the Canadian Medical Journal, that also seriously questions the Universal flu shot program(Note "Serial flu shot problem" covered below). And this article from the BMJ also wonders why we push the flu shot.(Read the 'Responses' tab as well at this link.)  Another article here questions the "Universal" flu shot.

-This 2018 Cochrane report also questions all the science behind this shot.

-This 300 page treatsy on the flu vaccine by Dr. Doshi is interesting. I have not yet read it all but says that the science behind flu shot is bad, the effectiveness of shot is greatly exaggerated and deaths from flu are exaggerated. (download from link on left) and suggests it is not really a "vaccine preventable" illness.


Europeans are not all dying of the flu without the flu shot. Actually they are doing better than you Americans who have the highest uptake of the flu shot.  Europeans live longer and have a lower infant mortality rate.   Many reasons for that obviously, but the flu shot is not helping. 

-This article in the Toronto Star written by 3 doctors with Toronto's University of Heath. Questions the value of pushing the flu shot so hard and questions mandatory vaccination of health care workers.  Best thing is stay home if your sick.

-Here is the CDC back in 2004 when there was a flu  vaccine shortage saying, "influenza is an annoying illness and you will recover just fine".  In other words don't worry about it.

-This shows, page 4, doctors get paid $50 fee for giving a flu shot by Blue Shield in the US.

-This shows in Alberta, pharmacy's get paid $13.50 per flu shot injection by the government, then they would add on the cost of the vaccine and their markup. And says Doctors can bill $10.14 as part of their clinical billing.   Read comments at bottom of this, Big money. 

-This article from Pharmacy Times shows giving vaccines is very profitable for a pharmacy.  Also says vaccines prices are rising at 7.5% a year and will be $49 Billion in 2022.

This article shows flu shot pricing around the US, $25 to $85.

Reading thru this web page you will see that I am against the general flu shot recommendation, the science does not support it. It may have some value to certain groups. 

The flu shot does almost nothing to prevent hospitalization.

We hear all the time, get the flu shot to prevent serious illness and hospitalizations. That is just dogma repeated over and over, with nothing but some "Industry science" to back it up. See the science here.

Link #3 above, showed that the flu shot does not lower hospitalizations. That may surprise you, but it's true the flu shot is just not effective and why Europe not use it. Here is 3 more studies showing the same thing.

#5.-  Says flu shot has not been shown to decrease hospitalization. 

#6.-  This says "There was no evidence vaccines affected hospital admissions, complication rates or transmission.(influenza vaccine)  Read all this, flu shot is not impressive. 

This study here, also says the flu shot does not decrease hospitalizations in children, especially those with asthma. Then says in it's 'Headline' that "kids who get the flu shot have 3 times the risk of hospitalization".

This newer study here, says "the flu shot does not prevent absenteeism from school."

Here are some more worrisome studies which makes me wonder why they give a flu shot to children.


#7.-   This new 2018 study shows, kids getting a flu shot makes them more likely to get a acute respiratory illness.   9 doctors signed this. This article goes along with above study, interesting.

-Here is more studies showing the same problem. See here4712,  here,  here0293 this is adults as well. 

-This says "They found that children who had received the flu vaccine had three times the risk of hospitalization, as compared to children who had not received the vaccine". Also says "the flu shot not prevent hospitalizations in children".

This is package insert for a newer flu shot, Afluria, page 13/14 says kids 6 months  to 36 months old have a 4.8%(1 in 20) chance of an upper respiratory infection.  And kids to 5 years old a 2.5% chance of a URI.  


Then here is more studies showing we are messing with kids immune system with a flu shot and make them more susceptible to other more serious flu, or pandemic strains. Here9321, and here0239,  this must-read article, here for everyone.


-The very few studies done for the age group 6 months to 2 years old show the flu shot not work for them. It is "all risk and no benefit".

The Cochrane reports say there is no real data for kids under two. To me, that means they know it does not work. If there are no studies, it is because they don't want to know. Pharma routinely buries negative data.

Here are a few studies that say flu shot does not work in kids under two, see here, and here6235, and here, and here8647  and here, read 4th paragraph down, says flu shot not work in younger children.  You can probably find an "Industry-funded" study that says the opposite, as usual.

-This article says's(7th paragraph from bottom) chance of a child dying of the flu is about 1 or 2 in a million.  So there is more risk from the vaccine, for a child. 

-This article from the UK shows they only recommend the flu shot for kids aged 2 to 10 and for the elderly, Not for kids under age 2.

All my research on vaccines has convinced me that we want to give as few vaccines as possible to kids under 2 years old.

-Think about this, in Canada there is only 1 to 3 deaths a year in kids under two from the flu, so is really worth the risk vaccinating every infant 6 months to 2 years old with a flu shot that barely works?? You might save 1 child, but how many have you damaged or killed with the shot. I believe absolutely no kids under 2 should get a flu shot.

See this, it is Canada's pediatric immunization monitoring program.  Third paragraph down shows that IMPACT catches 90% of pediatric(ages 0 to 16) flu deaths and hospitalizations.

This is a Flu Watch report for Canada for 2018/19  See write up under table 2. Says 10 pediatric deaths and 8 were in age 2 to 4 years of age. So how were there any deaths this year under the age of two?

This is 2016/17 season, says there were less than 5 pediatric deaths this season.

Another interesting statistic is that US kids have twice the uptake of the flu shot that Canada does, yet they have just as many, if not more child flu deaths than we do per capita.

I truly believe this vaccine is next to useless. The flu shot has all junk science behind it.


Getting flu shots every year can make them much less effective and in certain years makes you even more likely to get the flu. Lots of science on this below.

-First I will start with a few news stories that show, at least 3 times in the recent past, you were more likely to get the flu if you had a flu shot, than someone who got no shot.(It did not 'give' the flu, but made you more likely to get it)

This is 1976

. Read paragraph 6 and 7 which explains that those who got the 1976 pandemic flu shot were 7 times more likely to get the swine flu!!! This is a 2014 Washington Post article.  Article also says 12 died and 300 more were paralyzed from this flu shot.

This is 2009  2nd paragraph says if you take a flu shot more than 1 year in a row, the flu shot almost doubled your risk of getting the flu for 2009 season.(Story not in any US media as usual)

Then this happened again in 2014 This is of 2014/15 season.  This article says if you got the flu shot more than one year in a row you are actually more likely to get the flu than someone who got no flu shot.  And another story here says the same.

-Now for the science on serial flu shot problem.

-  Is a 2017 study witch14 doctors signed.  More proof on the Serial flu shot problem. Good read.  Study shows that this problem was discovered back in 1970's.  This Discusses the incidents in the above news stories. 

Also see this study.

-.  This 2013 study done in Michigan, says if you take the flu shot more than 2 years in a row, it has almost no benefit and may make you more likely to get the flu or negative benefit.  Also says, "flu shot offered no protection within a household".

And here is another study a year later, 2014. Same results.

This 2018 study shows repeat flu shots is a problem, also past immune history affects effectiveness,  and biased studies a problem.


-  This Norwegian study, asks, "taking too many taking flu vaccine"?   Read all of this article, brings up several good points. Shows getting influenza can help give you immunity to ALL strains of the flu, uses inner part of virus.

And here is another good article on this. And from CTV here.   Don't get a flu shot.

-Here is two recent studies done that deny the Serial flu shot problem, here and here.  These were immediately leaped on by HC and CDC to prove "see it's not a problem".  Ya right, this problem has been around since the 70's and it just disappears?? 

 Goto bottom of both studies and you will see they are both "pharma funded" studies put out to protect their interests.  The second one is hilarious. Notice they had every doctor they could find in this field sign this and toe the party line.  Look at the long list of disclosures, several are GSK employees. Notice, the names that are missing are the real experts in this field that are on some of the other studies above.


-Near bottom of this article, they discuss the serial flu shot problem. One expert says it is real and another says it is not.  The doctor, Mark Loeb who says it is not real gets funding from Pharma. See Loeb's funding disclosures here and here, click the disclosures tab at top.

Here is a reminder of how bad Pharma studies are, they are ALL suspect.  I can find many links that say this.  Doctors always seem to believe "pharma funded studies". Why??

FLU SHOT SIDE EFFECTS. Adverse events.

-I have already showed 4 studies above that the flu shot can cause respiratory illness.

-And I showed the science above about the Serial or Repeat flu shot problem, getting flu shots every year makes it less effective.  Now I show more problems.

-  This is one of the lawyer firms that does VICP vaccine injury cases.  Scan through this to see the different injuries the flu shot can cause, is real world data.  Is over 600 injuries here and mostly flu shot injures, including 10 deaths from the flu shot.  These are rare, but do happen. The flu shot is a yearly shot so of course will have the most injuries. The DTaP is by far the next most common for injuries.

     As I showed on the Home page(Links #24 to 26), there is 99% under-reporting of vaccine injuries. This is just the tip of the iceberg. Just read the comments under any flu shot article.  You read over and over, "I got real sick from the flu shot and never took it again".

-Read Tab J "How safe are Vaccines". This shows adverse events that can happen with any vaccine and many apply to the flu shot.  See here for flu shot ingredients.

-This study4738 says flu shot increases inflammation and increases risk of cardiovascular events.

-Read this very scary study.

-  Read the “Summary” section at top. Says “Repeated vaccination when young, substantially increases risk of influenza in older age.”  Also says natural infection gives better immunity than vaccination.

This recent study shows if you get the flu, you are more likely to spread it if you had the flu shot.

-  2nd paragraph up from “Discussion”, says “we observed 6.3 (95% CI 1.9–21.5) times more aerosol shedding among cases with vaccination in the current and previous season compared with having no vaccination in those two seasons.

Then read last paragraph of “Discussion”. Says "The association of current and prior year vaccination with increased shedding of influenza".

-This article from CTV news explains how many children around the world now are getting narcolepsy from the H1N1 flu shot

-This article shows GBS from the flu shot is more common than they say.  This3123 as well says 2 to 5 cases of GBS per million.(not 1 in a million) Note that GBS is and autoimmune disease.

-This study0173  flu shot and an autoimmune response.

-This9553 is about fatal adverse events from 2009 H1N1 flu shot. Had 107 fatalities out of 15 million doses.


Read this interesting article with many links to back everything up.  Warning, some call this doctor anti-vaxx, but there is lots of science here to back it all up. And I show some studies on vaccines and depression as well.

-See here,8610 and here5135 vaccination and prolonged behavioral, emotional and cognitive problems.  And here9533,  vaccination caused inflammatory response and "influences central nervous system function to generate core symptoms of sickness and reorient basic motivational states".

-  We know that vaccines cause inflammation, this 2018 study looked at what the inflammation from the flu shot does.  Conclusion of this study says "Minor increases in inflammation were associated with corresponding increases in features of depression, and these associations occurred in the absence of any physical symptoms."

Here are some stories from people seriously injured by flu shot. Here, and here, and here and this one says between 0 and 2 cases of Transverse Myelitis are reported each year form the flu shot.  This story and here, is about a family whose 2-year-old child died of the flu and article says he died of the same strain of flu he was vaccinated for. , the child and whole family were vaccinated and they all got the flu.

-The above links are for those people who say "the flu shot is risk free, get the shot even if it is only 10% effective".  Not true, all vaccines have risk.

   Also see Appendix A of this site, shows the flu shot, like most vaccines, have minute contaminants that can cause long term health problems.

-Considering all the above, A flu shot that is only "40%" effective(by their data) it is not worth risking, to try and prevent a disease that is highly unlikely to kill you, unless your over 70.

I am 64 and still don't know anyone who has died of the flu.(Yes it can happen)  Vaccines are never worth risking just to prevent you getting sick for a few days, they are only for deadly diseases.(read appendix)

     Vaccines are not like pills that are taken 'orally'. Your body knows how to handle something that is ingested and goes thru your digestive tract.  Vaccines are 'injected', they get into your blood, the nasty stuff stays inside your body, goes into your organs and brain. Read the Home page again, to see how bad our science is on this. 

-Thimerosal, which is 50% mercury(ethyl mercury), is still used in many flu shots.  The multi-dose vials are the ones with the mercury in them.(If you have to get the flu shot, find a place that will give you the pre-filled syringe, is more expensive.  


Health Canada and the CDC, of course, say it's safe.  As always first use your common sense, It's mercury!!  It's not safe, not in any amount!!  There are studies of course that say it's safe, I don't know if they are all CDC or Industry funded.  

But there is lots of studies saying thimerosal is not safe, here is some. Here1957,  and here7751, and here5977, and here7975, and here9848, and here.  and here0342 and here3274, and  hereXiao, and here7975a, and here5705, and here0517 and This from the LA Times says Merck was secretly worried about all the thimerosal kids were getting, far beyond FDA limits. 

This1558 done by the CDC in 2017 says, "There are a number of mechanisms by which alkylmercury compounds cause toxic action in the body. Collectively, published studies reveal that there are some similarities between the mechanisms of the toxic action of the mono-alkyl mercury compounds methylmercury (MeHg) and ethylmercury (EtHg)".  Here is an interesting article on this study. This is data sheet for Thimerosal.

This from the CDC defends thimerosal.  It links to 10 studies at bottom, but several of them actually say thimerosal is dangerous and  the most positive one is done by W. Thompson and F. Desteffano who are the ones that faked a study and Thompson whistle blew and it is now before the courts, so do we trust it?  This study1700 in the CDC list says  the AAP and Public Health is calling for  removal of thimerosal from children's vaccines after a FDA risk assessment and says kids were getting more mercury than recommended by the FDA, and there is limited data available on low dose toxicity.  

    Several of the studies are really bad, small studies looking at blood levels and not harm, or what has happened to the mercury, is it in the organs or lymph nodes?

This one in the list is weird, 2 phases of the study say thimerosal causes tics and increased risk of language delays, then the conclusion ignores it and says more studies needed.

Then see this article in Wikipedia here, it starts out saying thimerosal is safe, then go down and read the "Toxicology" section, it is frighting, and what it says happens when injected, sounds anything but safe, as this says:  "Methylmercury and ethylmercury distribute to all body tissues, crossing the blood–brain barrier and the placental barrier, and ethylmercury also moves freely throughout the body".

-This article says "flu shot can cause increased risk of swine flu".  also says "Professor Collignon blames influential drug companies and frightened politicians for what he says is the overuse of flu vaccines in healthy people".   Note that most of Europe does not give the flu shot to everyone like we do.  

-More serious side effects, here and here, and



This says only 40% of doctors got flu shots before mandates.  If the flu shot was so great, wouldn't they be first in line for it?

-  Only 40% of doctors get a fool shot, this is back in 2008 before mandates.  

This link says only 38% of Healthcare workers got the flu shot before mandates.

-  The Science is still out on whether vaccinating health care workers is worthwhile. This say studies show we should vaccinate HCW's are badly flawed.  


After much observation and research of Influenza, I did a totally unscientific survey among people I know.  Even got the help of a nurse friend down in the US, because most people I know do not get a flu shot. I have come up with a theory, and the survey so far supports it. 

Here it is: "You will only get influenza 1 to 3 times in your adult life, whether you never get a flu shot or if you always get a flu shot, it does not matter".

I asked people how many times they had the flu and how often they got a flu shot, and wrote down their rough age group. I had just as many say they never got a flu shot and either never got the flu or got the flu once or twice as I did people who said they always got the flu shot and got the flu once or twice.  I did get the odd person who said they got the flu almost every year some got the flu shot some did not. I suspect those people did not have "Influenza". 

  Obviously there are exceptions to this rule, nothing is for sure with influenza.  I believe this rule is true because 1.The flu shot works so poorly, it just delays the inevitable, eventually you will get the flu and when you do you will not get it again for a very long time. See here. Read 6th paragraph from bottom, says "risk of flu is about every 20 years".

2.Because each time you get the flu you build a 'real' immunity to all strains. 

3. Also keep in mind that most people who think they have influenza, do not, it is something else. When the CDC tests you for influenza, only about 15 to 30% are positive for flu.

There could be other reasons this theory is true that I don't know about.

Why don't you do your own survey? Let me know.

THINK ABOUT THIS if you get a flu shot every year.

-Those that get a flu shot every year and say they never get the flu, think about this.  We now know the flu shot is less than 45% effective on average, so how come over the years you did not get the flu at least a few time, since the flu shot is so ineffective? Mathematically you should get the flu roughly every second year. But you didn't, why?  You see?  Fact is you would not have got the flu anyways, flu shot, or no flu shot.

Given all the above is it really worth risking a influenza vaccine.  


Note that people seldom die of the flu, it is usually a complication of the flu, like sepsis or pneumonia. Flu deaths are tracked as flu/flu associated deaths.

Death totals are all over the map.  The fact is 'adult' flu death totals are not tracked in Canada and the US.  They do estimates using flakey modeling. (Some US states do there own tracking, like California)

 However, kids aged 0 to 18 are tracked in the US.  Flu/flu associated deaths are a reportable disease and the deaths are verified and counted. This CDC site shows there is an average of 140 kid flu deaths a year(ages 0 to 18).

There is 74 million kids aged 0 to 18 in the US, so the kid only has about 2 chances in a million of dying of the flu. That is not too scary, the chance of a serious adverse event from the flu shot is higher than that, especially for a small child. 

   If your kid gets a flu shot that is 40% effective, his chance of dying from the flu goes from 2 to 1.2 in a million.  Is the shot worth it, don't forget all the other links above, increased risk of a acute respiratory illness etc.

So if a kid aged 0 to 18 has 2 chances in a million of dying, what about an adult? We know that influenza is most dangerous for kids under 5 and those over 65.  I am only guessing now, but younger adults would probably be in the 2 in a million range as well and then risk will slowly increase as you get older.

Here is a couple of good articles on adult flu death totals. Here and here.  The CDC says 3000 to 49,000 deaths on average, and last year(2018) the worst in a long time, they said and estimated 79,000 died and about 200 kids(0 to 18). 

Does that math seems a bit fishy?  The 200 is close due to mandatory reporting, but the 79,000?  I am trying to figure out how we can have only 200 deaths, 1/5 of the population, and then 79,000 total.   Even factoring in that 85% of flu deaths are over 65, per the CDC, it still seems impossible. The CDC did put the word "estimate" in front of that figure, thought most of the media left that word out. Is it a "wild" estimate? 

That figure is more than double the death rate from car crashes in the US. I know of people killed in car crashes. But I don't know anyone who has died of the flu?

-Health Canada here says there is an "estimated" 3500 flu deaths a year in Canada.

-See this article from CNN, after the usual flu shot dogma, it says for the 2018/19 season there was "between 36,400 and 61,200 deaths, the CDC estimated".  As you can see they have little idea how many adult deaths there are.

Another interesting note. Remember this link I showed earlier. It shows that this year 2018 and last year 2017, the flu shot was 40% effective for 'both' years. Yet this year had more than twice as many deaths as the previous year. And the uptake of the flu shot was about the same for both years.  Why?  Like I say, the flu shot has nothing to due with anything.(see CNN article just above for death totals) 

      I compared child death rates in Canada and the US and they are the same per capita, the the US has almost double the uptake of the flu shot that Canada does for kids.  This again shows the flu shot appears to due nothing.

    Read the CDC Tab Q on this site, to see how little we can trust them.

-This 2018 Cochrane report on the flu vaccine, 3rd paragraph from bottom, Says " The standard quoted figure of 36,000 yearly deaths in the US is based on the “respiratory and circulatory deaths” category including all types of pneumonia, including secondary to meconium ingestion or bacterial causes. More recently, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) have proposed estimates of impact ranging between 3,000 and 49,000 yearly deaths. When actual death certificates are tallied, influenza deaths on average are little more than 1,000 yearly. So, the actual threat is unknown (but likely to be small) and so is the estimation of the impact of vaccination."  This article also criticizes the "test Negative" design we use to calculate flu shot effectiveness and says it exaggerates flu shot effectiveness.  Also much of the science behind the flu shot is shoddy. 

-    7th paragraph from bottom, Danuta Skowronski says “risk of paediatric death is about 1 in every 2 million kids.”   Also says " by mid flu season Canada had less then 5 flu deaths".   So with a flu shot less than 50% effective, is the risk/benefit ratio in the shots favour?     

    Then Dr Mcgeer says Meningitis is very rare and less child deaths than influenza, so I would skip that vaccine as well, though that is not what she meant. 

Note, there is about 8 million kids under 19 in Canada.(so 4 pediatric child deaths from flu) 

Risk of flu shot on pregnant women.

-  Flu shot causes a 7fold increase in miscarriage, if had a flu shot previous year. Then read Response tab. 

This link is the actual study.

Note that the package inserts of all flu shots, say they are not tested, or there is insufficient data to determine safety on pregnant women, yet the doctors keep saying pregnant women should get a flu shot??  Example here, section 8.1 and page 12 for all the potential serious side effects.   

This study in JAMA says there is a suggestion of a increased risk of autism if a mother got a flu shot in her first trimester. Then they did some mathematical corrections to remove the signal, and then say it could be do to chance. Read this and decide for yourself.

This study also questions flu shots for pregnant women.

-This 2019 study signed by 11 doctors, showed giving the flu shot to pregnant women was no better than a placebo.  


The flu shot is really pushed onto seniors, and they have the highest uptake of the flu shot.  Getting influenza is more dangerous for seniors.  The CDC says 80 to 90% of flu/flu related deaths are in seniors.


We have always know the flu shot works poorly in seniors due to a weaker immune system.  There are many studies now showing the flu shot barely works in them. Here and here for a couple. And here from the CDC, flu shot does little.  And this article says flu shot was ineffective in 4 of the last 7 seasons.

There are also "industry funded" studies saying the opposite of course.

This article from Health Canada quotes several studies for hi-dose flu shot which show and effectiveness from 18% to 24%. 

There are mixed results on the newer HI-dose flu shot as well.  The manufacture studies says it works 24% better than the standard flu shot.

    But other studies like here and here, say it does not really work any better at all. 

And this article from the Globe and Mail, says 4,000 seniors would need to be vaccinated to prevent one hospitalization with Hi-dose shot.  And says "the experts are worried about the "repeat flu shot problem" with the Hi-dose and say more studies are needed".

This is the package insert for the Hi-dose flu shot, it has 4 times as much antigen as the standard flu shot and twice as many side effects.   Page 6 says 1 to 2% get a serious adverse event, which are incapacitating for a few days. See "d" under table 1. 

 So if we have to vaccinate 4000 seniors to prevent 1 hospitalization, and if 1.5% get a serious  adverse event, that is 60 people would be incapacitated for several days by this flu shot to prevent 1 hospitalization from flu.(how many of those 60 were hospitalized?)  We may have more hospitalizations from the flu shot than the flu shot  prevents.

    Page 6, line 14 and 15  says 7.4% got a serious adverse event within 6 months of shot.

And don't forget the more serious "Post Marketing side effects" on the next page. who knows how many of those happen?  Is the shot worth it, or the expense? Article says no and some provinces won't fund it. The Hi-dose is $80 to $100. 

-Here is another example of nonsense from the CDC.

-  About half way down this, it addresses the issue that the flu shot can make you more likely to get a respiratory illness.(See my heading above "Flu Shot causing Respiratory illness")

This is the section title: "Is it true that getting a flu vaccine can make you more susceptible to other respiratory viruses?"   Notice in only refers to one study back in 2012 and their study actually does say the flu shot can make you more likely to get a respiratory infection, then they try to dismiss it.  They dont mention the newer studies I have.   I show four studies including a new 2018 study that show this problem.(under heading flu shot causes respiratory illness)

   Then they refer to a study funded by pharma.  It of course denies that flu shot makes you get respiratory illness. Goto bottom of this study and you will see it is funded by Medimmune and the main authors gets funding from Medimmune, which is the research arm of Astra Zeneca a vaccine manufacture.

Also flu shot can have long term side effects like any vaccines, see vaccine contaminant section, and retro-viruses and tumor's in appendix, and Tab J.


Think about this: Getting influenza while young is much safer than getting influenza when elderly, and if you get a 2nd bout of influenza it is usually not as bad.

With a flu shot that works at best 40% on average long term, you are going to eventually get the flu, better to get it when young and healthy. Then you are much less likely to get the flu when older, and if you do, the second time is not as bad.

Remember the points I have proved on this web site. You cannot trust any Industry funded science.  The CDC and Health Canada will say and do almost anything to "protect the vaccination program".  There is virtually no good science out there on vaccines, that has not been funded by pharma.(read Home page)

All choices have risk. 


You have all seen the stories.  Starting in  late August is an endless barrage of media stories, especially in the US, "get your flu shot".  Which is funny because as I showed above, most of Europe does not even recommend the flu shot except those over 65 and a few special groups, like certain sick people. 

-This from the US CDC shows how they use the media to push the flu shot, they even encourage fibbing a bit and exaggerating.

  Here are some of the lines from this CDC slide show presentation. It has since been pulled, this is a copy. 

Receipt for fostering public interest in flu shot:

    Have public health officials state concern and alarm and urge vaccination

    Frame flu season in terms that motivate behaviour, like state concern and alarm and "predict dire outcomes".

     Use terms like "more severe that last year", predict dire outcomes.

     (page 7)Continued reports to the media of that influenza is causing severe illness and affecting lots of people. 

    Help foster the "perception that many people are susceptible to a bad case of influence".

    Put out pictures of families affected by the flu and people getting vaccinated.

    Put out references to pandemic influenza.

    Page 8 Fostering demand requires creating concern, worry and anxiety. For example, a "perception or sense that many are falling ill". A perception or sense of vulnerability contracting and experiencing bad illness. 

   Further down this it says "Health literacy is a growing problem"(we don't want an educated public do we)



-This link shows the flu shot with thimerosal or mercury is still routinly used in Canada, watch video as they use the multi-dose vial to give flu shots. Multi-dose vials all have mercury. The pre-filled syringes are the ones with only traces of mercury.  

New Zealand data.  (Note, cut and pasted over, spelling errors are theirs)

-This  shows the flu shot effectivness for 2015 season was using a case test negative design were 36% (95% confidence interval (CI): 11–54) for general practice encounters and 50% (95% CI: 20–68) for hospitalisations. VE against hospitalised influenza A(H3N2) illnesses was moderate at 53% (95% CI: 6–76) but improved compared with previous season.

-This shows flu shot effectiveness for 2016 season, 2016 influenza VE (visits as of 3 October 2016) was 23% (95% CI: -24 to 52) for ILI related GP consultations and 12% (95% CI: -122 to 65) for SARI related hospitalizations.

-This shows  In 2017, the vaccine was 51% (95% CI: 17–71) effective at preventing influenza-associated hospitalisations and 27% (95% CI: 6–43) effective at preventing influenza-related general practice consultations.

-This shows In 2018, the vaccine was 38% (95% CI: 1.4–61) effective at preventing influenza-associated hospitalisations and 35% (95% CI: 12–52) effective at preventing influenza-related general practice consultations. For Influenza A(H1N1)pdm09, the vaccine effectiveness was higher (hospitalisations: 61 [95% CI: 25–80] and GP visits: 45 [95% CI: 23–62]).

-So New Zealands overall average effectivness for last 4 years is 37%

-This shows reports for all years, but effectivenss data only available after 2014 in NZ.

-So should you get a flu shot?  This is one vaccine I would not get. There may be some value in it for certain groups, like the very sick. I think the science shows risk benefit ratio is not in the flu shots favour in modern healthy countries.  


-This says Tamilfu does not do what it is suppose to do, and Roche bilked the Federal gov out of $1.4 Billion.  Story source here.

I will do more on Tamiflu later, I would never use this product.

-This6345 is Dr Tom Jefferson's "Influenza vaccination: policy versus evidence". Good write-up.  Comments here.


Starting every fall and into the winter there is now a never ending stream of articles in the mainstream media telling you to get a flu shot, mainly in the US media

They hype up the rhetoric, make it sound like you are flirting with death if you don't get your flu shot. 

I got influenza in my mid 20's and it was miserable, I took 4 days off work.  About 10 years later, I thought I had the flu again, it was not as bad as the first time and am not positive it was influenza.

I have never had a flu shot in my life. Now at 64,  I have not had the flu in the last 30 years or more.